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Monday, 9 May 2016

"Brexiter" implies that Britain will be less secure if we leave the EU

A leading "Brexiter" has proposed that prime minister David Cameron should immediately introduce emergency security legislation to protect the security of the UK upon leaving the EU. Why would the prime minister need to do this if, as the "Brexit" campaign contends, Britain will be safer when we leave the EU?

This proposal is ill conceived nonsense.

What are the hidden dangers of leaving the EU ? Please would the "Brexit" campaign like to inform us all?

It is irresponsible that we should break our treaty obligations just to go it alone on security  and immigration during the period when we negotiate an exit from the EU. Who would trust a country that reneges on its treaty obligations? Would the US trust us to be a loyal NATO member? How would reneging on our treaty obligations make us safer?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-3577984/Gove-Laws-strengthen-UKs-borders-follow-quickly-Brexit.html

Since 1973, when the UK and Ireland joined the EU, the only EU citizens who have been involved in terrorists atrocities in our islands have been from the United Kingdom or Ireland . Some 3,000 citizens were killed by terrorists related incidents during the Northern Ireland troubles. The victims were killed, in the main, by UK born terrorists. The 2005 terrorists attacks perpetrated in London were were made by UK citizens. Michael Gove seems to have conveniently forgotten this history.

During the Northern Ireland troubles the British and Irish people were sensible enough not to have demanded that we suspended the Common Travel Area between our countries, or that we should have deported British or Irish citizens, or erected a border fence between the North and South of Ireland. The Northern Ireland troubles were resolved by two independent states pooling their sovereignty to cooperate on security and above all to improve the political process that led to peace. If  Britain and Ireland had buried their heads in the sand then the Northern Ireland troubles would have continued until this day.

The overwhelming majority of EU citizens who live in the UK are peaceful and law abiding and they are not a threat to national security. The EU, and its citizens, is no more of a threat to Britain than Ireland is.

In the UK about 6,000 people die from accidents in the home. This means that since 2005 about 60,000 people have died from accidents where they feel safe. It is far more dangerous to stay at home than run the gauntlet of terrorism on the streets of the UK. Who are the real scaremongers the prime minister or the "Brexiteers"? We need to have a sense of proportion about the dangers of terrorism and not use it as part of a political blame culture.

The British police and their colleagues in MI5, MI6 and GCHQ have worked very effectively to keep us safe from malicious terror. We shall be safer still if we co-operate fully with the EU - just as we do with the US and Canada. If we have to pool some sovereignty to do this, just as we pool our sovereignty with NATO, then I am all in favour. Britain makes a considerable contribution to the safety and security of Europe. A safer Europe means a safer UK. The safety of Europe will not be improved by Britain leaving the EU.

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